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Not-So-Speedy Dressage

From Endurance to Dressage

More of Day 2 with Christian Schacht

12/19/2013

 
First, I need to offer a very heartfelt thank you to those of you who have taken the time to offer me feedback over the last few days. I have enjoyed your comments very much. Some of you have answered my questions, some have sympathized with the difficulty of the exercises, and some have been excited to try some of Christian's strategies. 

For me, this blog is a way to process what I am learning, and having you all chime in has been like having a deep conversation. You've all given me excellent ways to think about why we do things and how we do things. Writing in such detail can be tiring, my fingers are dragging across the keyboard tonight, but knowing that putting words to ideas will lead me to better understanding, makes it a very worthwhile endeavor.

And with that, here's a little bit about my second ride on Sydney …

I already told you yesterday that I was pretty beat after my second ride on Speedy. Those exercises that Christian had me do were both physically and mentally challenging. I knew that what lay ahead was not going to be any easier.
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Another Sarah photo (borrowed from her blog post). That's Christian whispering into the microphone. This is an example of our tension: me hunched over, Sydney trying to get the hell out of there!
Let's see if I can do the short version: 
  • Sydney refuses to enter the ring, Christian tells me to DO NOTHING, just wait. 
  • Sydney finally enters the ring, and Christian tells me to DO NOTHING, just wait. 
  • He asks me to drop the reins and let Sydney do whatever he wants. Inside, I scream, WHAAAAATTTT???? 
  • Sydney rams himself into the corners at A; Christian tells me to DO NOTHING but wait it out. He insists that Sydney will get bored with standing in the corner.
  • Sydney pushes against the rails of the arena searching for a way out, and Christian again tells me to do … NOTHING. As Sydney whacks the rails, Christian quips that he's no jumper. I rolled my eyes; that's for sure! Let's keep it that way.
  • Moments later, Sydney bashes through the arena rails and knocks everything askew as I valiantly keep my seat and keep us from falling amidst the scattered rails.
  • Christian points out that the ground crew has efficiently righted everything so there is no need to worry.
  • Sydney later avoids the arena rails and Christian once again jests that Sydney has learned a lesson so need to worry about that anymore.
  • Sydney balks in the corner and refuses to leave A. Christian says to again DO NOTHING ... until Sydney starts to back. Then Christian instructs me to make backing my idea and we rein back, and rein back, and rein back until we are nearly at X. Sydney then goes forward.
  • We repeat this rein back idea numerous times until Sydney finally decides that balking at A is not such a good idea.
  • Eventually, we begin to trot. Christian has me stabilize my outside hand by resting it at Sydney's withers.
  • We begin to flex with the inside rein; flex, release, flex release.
  • We use lots of inside leg to encourage Sydney to step deeply with his his inside hind leg.
  • We make the circle bigger whenever Sydney will go for it.
  • While tracking right, Sydney falls in horribly and Christian insists that it's okay. We just work with whatever Sydney can do. If he wants to make the circle small, okay.
  • Every time Sydney breaks into the canter, Christian tells me to make it my idea and encourages forwardness.
  • Eventually, Sydney is put together and balanced, but then we change directions and start all over. We then get it back together and are balanced and put together only to lose it again at the next change direction.
  • Repeat, repeat, repeat.

Here's another Sarah photo - I still look quite tense, but Sydney is moving pretty nicely.
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A bit blurry, but Sydney wouldn't work anywhere near the center of the arena. He was glued to A!
After the lesson, while I was untacking and putting Sydney away, Christian gave me a hug and told me what a good job I'd done. He later remarked to Chemaine Hurtado, my (not often enough used) Ventura trainer, that I am quite brave and have improved tremendously. So while I may have been a bit of an emotional pile of goo after I dismounted, the positive feedback I received from everyone let me know that I didn't have any reason to be disappointed. 

I need to add a special thank you to the OTTB rider who came out of nowhere to engulf me in a gigantic bear hug. Even though she didn't know me, she completely empathized with my situation and knew that I needed a bit of moral support. Thanks to you, kind lady!

Sarah, of Eventing in Color did a brilliant write up of the clinic here. As an auditor, she was able to really listen to what Christian was saying without trying to also make her body do things it had never tried before. She took excellent notes which I have decided to unabashedly copy and paste. Why reinvent the wheel, eh?

So, thanks to Sarah, here are some excellent Schachtisms:
From Karen on Speedy, Sunday:

Top quotes:

  • "He is the friendliest horse int he world."
  • "Whistle a song. Relax. Pet him."
  • "The only way to the outside rein is inside flex and inside leg." 
  • "Its just a misunderstanding. This horse was not trained in our language. He is not mean."
  • "Pet him to the rhythm of the trot."
  • "The hard thing is that you have to forget all the things that came before."


Exercises & Position tips:

  • Apply and hold knee pressure when the horse is tense, then open when they relax. Works on TBs but not warmbloods. Generally too subtle for observers to notice, which is important in dressage. 
  • When you have a tense horse, start with long reins on neck. Don't pull back, don't lean forward.
  • If he stops because he's nervous in the surroundings, just wait for him, but don't let him back. Give him time to get bored.
  • Don't talk - they'll hear the nervousness in your voice.
  • Don't try for connection at first. Trot, rising slow, with hands down. Let the horse decide where to go, then take him back to a walk using seat only.
  • Slowly shorten the reins, hands low and wide, asking for more trot with "higher and faster" posting.
  • Add inside leg to start connection to outside rein.
  • When horses are naughty or spooky due to nervousness, don't be mean - just take each new moment as a new beginning.
  • Canter with only inside leg, press outside rein to wither.
  • Flex left and right to play with poll.
  • Do not pull as you down transition from canter to trot.
  • If he halts and goes backwards, try to stop with squeeze then big kick. If that doesn't work, rein back a lot. Make it your idea. When he want's to quit, ask for a few more steps. Then do forward walk to forward trot.
  • When you get a moment of relaxation from the horse, smile and enjoy your ride. 
And still more from Sarah's observations...
This final lesson was the most meaningful to me. Sydney started off quite tense, then worked out of it, then got tense again, then improved again.  I felt so much empathy for Karen - after all, we have the same issue of our amazing-at-home-OTTBs going nutso when away from home (only sometimes! which is somehow worse!).

Karen is an amazing rider with excellent feel (and an absolute KILLER lower leg!), but like me she had a hard time relaxing her whole body when Sydney was so tense. I could also tell she was having a mentally hard time being patient with his antics, which I completely relate to - when your horse is exhibiting unwanted behaviour, you feel compelled to do something about it. But Dr. Schacht reminded us that waiting IS doing something. And that we need to pick only one battle at a time. For example, he told Karen to let Sydney stay down in the corner and let him decide where to walk or trot to, as direction/location was not the battle to pick at that moment.

Overall the clinic was very informative. Dr. Schacht has a wonderful way with the horses and riders. He has a great sense of humor ("I always have the last word with my wife: 'yes hunnie'.") and a quiet calming voice.  The components of the clinic that resonated most with me is to use less hand, use more seat and body and to ride your nervous horse as if he wasn't a nervous horse (easier said than done!).
I have a few more things that I'd like to share about this clinic experience, but they'll need to wait for another day. Right now, I need another drink, some dinner, and bed. Have a great day!
Lauren link
12/18/2013 11:10:36 pm

Oh man, I LOVE his approach to those shenanigans. I've heard similar training philosophies (if they want to go, then GO. if they want to back, then BACK) in the western world but never seen it in dressage. Sounds like it was a tough day, but I hope you are feeling very proud of yourself now looking back.

Bakersfield Dressage link
12/19/2013 09:37:38 am

Thanks, Lauren. It's more a feeling of satisfaction, sort of like you get after a really hard work out. :0)

Amanda link
12/18/2013 11:27:29 pm

Sometimes waiting is the hardest part but the thing that our horses need so much. Good job!

Bakersfield Dressage link
12/19/2013 09:38:15 am

That's the truth!!!!

lytha
12/18/2013 11:42:53 pm

isn't it amazing how often doing nothing is the solution to a problem? it just blows my mind, and i'm only getting that now, after all these years "winning fights" with a submissive, dorky gelding who would have made the perfect opposite book end of speedy when he was younger. your post also reminded me of a c.s. lewis quote from one of the narnia books, paraphrasing, "given enough time, fear always gives way to boredom."

re: horses are expensive, i'll have to take a look at your posts on this again because my man just told me what we spent on the horse the last 5 months: 7K Euros. yikes, oh yah, that includes the price of the horse, but that still seems like way too much, considering how cheap she was.

Bakersfield Dressage link
12/19/2013 09:46:34 am

I am HORRIBLE at doing nothing. My whole being revolts at the idea of doing nothing. I pride myself on being a DOER. :0)

7000 Euros does seem like a bit much, especially since you're not showing or traveling. Next year's expenses should be lower since you won't have a purchase price to include.

Last year I spent $21,100, and this year I've spent approximately $18,500 (I didn't keep as careful track). That's about 13,600 Euros. I cold have easily come to visit you several times for that price! :0)

Judy
12/19/2013 01:37:44 am

Awesome! What a great clinic. I can see you and both your boys learning so much! Look out next show season!!

Bakersfield Dressage link
12/19/2013 09:47:10 am

I can't wait for our first show!!!!

Calm, Forward, Straight link
12/19/2013 04:01:52 am

My former trainer, whose barn had eight ottbs, was also a fan of making everything that happens in the arena your idea. The horse won't know that it wasn't - unless you tell them. ;D

Those exercise and position tips are fantastic - thanks so much for sharing this clinic with us. You are very fortunate to have access to such a quality clinician. I'm sure you'll be reaping the benefits of this experience for a long time.

Best wishes to you and yours this holiday season Karen!

Bakersfield Dressage link
12/19/2013 09:49:12 am

Thanks! I always complain about my lack of access to good dressage trainers, but after reading about your transportation issues (no bridge), I am going to stop complaining! :0)

Mo
12/19/2013 04:06:45 am

When one owns one of the hot/spooky TB's it can get so frustrating, especially when everybody else seems to be doing fine. I think we will all be better horsemen when we finally train the horse we want and overcome the challenge. I took my spooky guy to an all TB show in Washington state this fall, and he was a complete jerk in the crowded warm-up arena for both jumps and flat classes. Almost scrubbed the jump classes twice, then he calmed down out by himself and did a presentable job. Two realizations 1) need to take him to every small show i can find to desensitize him for what i want to do, and 2) i'm guessing lots of people with hot horses are afraid to take them public, so it makes you feel like a standout when you are the only one at a show. i'm trying to turn that into a positive thing in my brain, and i hope you can too.

Bakersfield Dressage link
12/19/2013 09:51:23 am

I LOVE your realizations!!!! I am already working on number 1 myself, but I am pretty limited here. Most everything even kind of near me is USDF/USEF. And you're absolutely right about number 2 - people only bring the steady eddies so when we brave souls bring our wiggly guys, they DO standout. Thanks so much for sharing!!!!!

Sarah link
12/19/2013 04:18:06 am

Seriously you are not giving yourself nearly enough credit for how you handled that ride. Doing nothing was the hardest thing to do - and guess what, you did it! Over and over! We pay clinicians the big bucks to whisper in our ears, but at the end of the day it was your tush in the saddle (and it stayed there just fine, even with the kicking out and taking down the arena corner) and you did an EXCELLENT JOB at actually DOING IT!! That, my dear, is why I and everyone else were so darn impressed with your ride. It looked hard, it sounded hard, and yet you did it, and of course it worked. YOU ROCK!!! Sydney is so lucky to have you!

Bakersfield Dressage link
12/19/2013 09:58:16 am

Sarah - you brought me to tears. You are so kind and generous in your comments. As hard as I try, I just can't be a glass half full. Instead, all I see is how much empty space is in my cup. I see how much we still need to learn. I am STARVING for knowledge and feel compelled to search out any nuggets that I can find, wherever they may be.

I do find pleasure in a job well done, but I am always pushing myself to work hard, be better, learn more … You'll be pleased (?) to know that I cut myself a HUGE break this week and have stayed out of the saddle. I just had this feeling that I would absorb more by allowing everything a chance to soak in without disrupting the process. It's the first non-saddle week I've had since our vacation this summer. In fact, I NEVER just take time off; maybe a day here and there or a week or two for travel, but never to just veg at home. :0)

I am looking forward to getting back in the saddle though. I can't wait to come your way again. Next time I need to come and watch YOU guys work. BTW, Christian is schedule to return 2/22 - 23/14.

Merry Christmas!


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